So confused

[pegasus]

Right 1st of hello every1 i'm a new member so be gentle lol. Can anybody please help me 'i've been training now for about a year just the usual chest mon shoulders tue ect ect. I train in a gym with body builder wanna b's but i want the BIG but not RIPPED look but not fat either i like Example kevin nee mark felix obviously i wont get that big but just big. Advice i've been given is fairly heavy but high reps but nothing's happening to much me diets pretty good lots of good food ect ect. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN BODY BUILDING AND STRONG MAN BOTH ARE GENERALLY BIG BUGGERS AND TRONG. PLEASE HELP

[notorious]

trained for a good few year myself mate had similar problems mysel but got it together bout 6 yr ago , weigh bout 20 stone now , dont get me wrong got a barrel instead of 6 pack ;D but i train , pushing one day pulling another and legs alone , heavy hyeavy weight low res , works for me but the big fella made us all different so not gonna say it ll work for everyone , good luck bud

[pegasus]

Thanks dude i'll try the training program thats on the site the push pull and see. I've noticed when i do low reps but heavy weight on me traps they react very well so i'll give it a go on my whole body fingers crossed. But all advice is bloody welcom lol. Shrugging 240kg dunno if thats any good but kills me ;D

[andrewa]

Bodybuilders sculpt there bodies to look a certain way, strongmen lift heavy objects not just standard dumbells and barbells.
The principles of training are very similar, but techniques used are different, and event is training completely different.

We are similar ages although I have been training for 7 years. Different routines work for different people, but main rule of thumb is, heavy weight low rep for mass and light weight high rep for definition. Diet is also key, the more carbohydrate you eat the thicker you get the more protein you eat the leaner and more vascular you will become. Also it depends if you are a natural lifter or on steroids, if you are on steroids your body will metabolise food in a different way.
Shrugging 240kg is not necessary, the trapezius muscle is naturally thick muscle it's sole purpose is to lift the shoulder capsule up. May wana try going a little lighter.

[pegasus]

Thanks buddy sounds like i've gotta change the way i train as of monday it's a fresh start. And i'm steroid free but i'm not very patiant but dont want to go down that road just yet so we'll see. Thanks again for ya help keep it coming

[andrewa]

No probs mate. Hit it hard.