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Post by Darren on Sept 26, 2003 13:29:52 GMT
Hello Anon!,
Are you the girl I met in the banana bar in Amsterdam in 1987? I'm still on the antibiotics!
Just kiddin. Hello mate. Are you working tonight? let me know and i'll pop down.
All the best Dazza.
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Post by that girl on Sept 26, 2003 13:33:12 GMT
yeah pop down and il buy you that drink you like
see you late baby
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Post by John Boy on Sept 27, 2003 19:15:32 GMT
A big yes to this question!!!!!!
Lets go for it. Just look at all the various factions concerned with bodybuilding but they all lead to the same thing (Competing). Tug of War did the same thing with an association and then a federation came along to challenge them. Have differing factions and let the athletes decide who to join and compete in.
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Post by wee man on Sept 27, 2003 23:24:45 GMT
NO,we should be striving to make IFSA THE governing body for the sport of strength athletics as it is well established,rather than splinter away.
MR. MANFRED HOBROEL tried, on a world level,to get the recognition duly deseved by strength athletes,for all the reasons stated on this thread,when he set up AFSA,only to fail big style.
IFSA is already established,the infra structure is there, a committee(council) could be set up,using the current IFSA regional representitives with further representation coming from sub committees made up from IFSA members in each region.
Has MR. BOB DALGLEISH actually spoke with IFSA re. a council? YES or NO
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Post by Bob Daglish on Sept 28, 2003 1:32:57 GMT
weeman, thank for your input some good pionts but people like you are bad for our sport. a change may be better it may not but if we don't try we all may be the losers. i would like to thank everybody for they support and input but i need to sit down and think this thing out more. i cant do this by myself we need everyone behind this to make it work and if that means working with ifsa to do want most of you want it can only make things better
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Post by cowgirl on Sept 28, 2003 11:33:09 GMT
Bob you are not on your own, there is lots of support with you, you and the other council members need to get together and talk away from the forum where you can concentrate on the job in hand away from having to justify yourselves.
You need professional advice on how to make this a legal and ligitmate federation then once you have a professional governing body to answer to let the doubter go to them and winge, you can then concentrate on what you all do best supporting up and coming strongmen.
Have strength in your convictions the basics are there the plan just needs to all come together.
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Post by Darren on Sept 28, 2003 16:57:15 GMT
Weeman,
Yes IFSA are long established and I dont doubt that they have the resources to be a good and legitimate governing body. The fact is that they dont do enough with their position in the sport. They only represent the elite.
Anyone that knows anything about this sport should know that you dont just decide one day to start flipping tyres and the same year end up competing at BSM. For most of us there is a good few years gym work involved before you even go near a conan's wheel or a 400kg tyre.
It is my opinion that the proposed association that is being talked about is not being done to undermine IFSA. It is being done so that us poor sods at the other end of the sport can have some kind of structure and governing body of our own.
At the moment there are all these smaller shows taking part all over the country like Kents, south coast, Allhallows, white cliffs and there all done by individual promoter's. Now i'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that. I went to most of these shows and thought that they were excellent. BUT...............
If we were all pulling together under the same set of rules with recognised catagories of show, say, novice, intermediate and open and it was run in a league system (similar to football), the sport would finally have a structure and give everybody something to work towards. That way you would'nt get people hanging around in the novice competitions because, for them, it was an easy win. Why would they hang around in division 2 when they could be in div 1 or the premiership (open).
Now I can't stand football but I know that every footbal team in the land play's by FA rules. IFSA could have done this years ago but they have'nt.
The only way this can get started is if it is done not for profit. Why would IFSA waste there time if there was no money involved? That is why we need a new association, not to undermine IFSA but as a governing body of the sport. If IFSA want to change the way they operate and take some notice of both ends of the sport that is up to them. They have had long enough to do it and they haven't.
Darren
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Post by Bob Daglish on Sept 28, 2003 17:44:24 GMT
Well said Darren, you are needed by this council or union. You all have my gym number so if you would like to talk call me
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Post by Steve C on Sept 28, 2003 17:52:07 GMT
Bob with a few more like Darren and we would be well on our way ,see you Sun
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Post by ken on Sept 28, 2003 22:06:12 GMT
how about it darren,you have some good points.can you make it next sat or sun at bobs gym?
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Post by BritishAthlete on Sept 29, 2003 8:16:56 GMT
That was a very enlightening post Darren! I'm inclined to agree with your point of view after reading this thread in it's entirety (amongst others related to this).
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Post by jack the woodsman on Sept 30, 2003 21:45:21 GMT
NO,we should be striving to make IFSA THE governing body for the sport of strength athletics as it is well established,rather than splinter away. MR. MANFRED HOBROEL tried, on a world level,to get the recognition duly deseved by strength athletes,for all the reasons stated on this thread,when he set up AFSA,only to fail big style. IFSA is already established,the infra structure is there, a committee(council) could be set up,using the current IFSA regional representitives with further representation coming from sub committees made up from IFSA members in each region. Has MR. BOB DALGLEISH actually spoke with IFSA re. a council? YES or NO  wee man dont talk rubbish and you know who this is from see you soon |
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